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<time begin="1"/><clear/>I would like to welcome everybody to the first webcast this year for the IFTWG. 
<time begin="9"/><clear/>I am going to go through and Paul, can you put that back up there? 
<time begin="14"/><clear/>I am going to call out the attendees that I see here. 
<time begin="19"/><clear/>If I miss your name, if you let us know, that way we'll avoid the roll call. 
<time begin="32"/><clear/>I see Dan Stock, Gunther Hawk, Ken Troop, Ashanti -- 
<time begin="35"/><clear/>Now joining. 
<time begin="36"/><clear/>Mark Jenson. 
<time begin="40"/><clear/>Who did I miss there? 
<time begin="41"/><clear/>Randy. 
<time begin="46"/><clear/>Are you logged in to the WebEx? 
<time begin="46"/><clear/>We're in now. 
<time begin="48"/><clear/>Randy, this is Kate; I am not logged in. 
<time begin="54"/><clear/>Randy, there you are, Sam. 
<time begin="54"/><clear/>Kate, I am not logged in either. 
<time begin="57"/><clear/>Who is this? 
<time begin="59"/><clear/>Carol Mitchell. 
<time begin="61"/><clear/>Okay. 
<time begin="63"/><clear/>You're with SAIC, right? 
<time begin="64"/><clear/>That's correct. 
<time begin="66"/><clear/>Anyone else we miss? 
<time begin="76"/><clear/>This is Steve Long, both... 
<time begin="79"/><clear/>Are you logged in, Steve. 
<time begin="81"/><clear/>When I come up it doesn't list the event. 
<time begin="86"/><clear/>You have to go to list events, and I believe -- there is a session number. 
<time begin="91"/><clear/>It is if you're ready to write it down, I will give you the session number. 
<time begin="102"/><clear/>801707011. 
<time begin="107"/><clear/>In my opinion, else having trouble logging in? 
<time begin="111"/><clear/>Anyone else having trouble logging in? 
<time begin="112"/><clear/>Okay. 
<time begin="116"/><clear/>From the leadership side we're a little light today. 
<time begin="121"/><clear/>I don't know if you know this or not, but Rich is retiring or has retired from the OT 
<time begin="128"/><clear/>and Tony first has taken his position. 
<time begin="130"/><clear/>Tony is on vacation today in Seattle, and our industry chair, Ben Shelton is out on a user conference in Austin. 
<time begin="142"/><clear/>Actually, I think they're doing an afternoon golf outing right now. 
<time begin="146"/><clear/>Mike is supposed to be here, but he is running late. 
<time begin="148"/><clear/>We're out at Tyson's. 
<time begin="151"/><clear/>I will go ahead and get kicked off. 
<time begin="153"/><clear/>What we're going to do on the agenda today 
<time begin="156"/><clear/>is run through the status of the current projects that are underway with IFTWG, 
<time begin="162"/><clear/>and then we're going to review the Oak Brook IFTWG meeting coming up 
<time begin="167"/><clear/>on May the first and second, in Oak Brook, Illinois, 
<time begin="172"/><clear/>and Paul is also going to present a follow-up presentation from the Anaheim meeting 
<time begin="177"/><clear/>on the disaster recovery round table, the group that has been assembled, 
<time begin="183"/><clear/>that volunteered to to work on the project, and some of the ideas that's come out of that group. 
<time begin="192"/><clear/>Why don't I get started. 
<time begin="195"/><clear/>Like I said earlier, if you do have any questions, please type them in and we'll get to them at the end. 
<time begin="202"/><clear/>If you would like to save them ask over the phone, please mute your phone if you can. 
<time begin="206"/><clear/>The cross town improvement project is one of the projects that actually came out of the IFTWG group, 
<time begin="210"/><clear/>almost a year-and-a-half ago it actually came from the San Antonio meeting we had, 
<time begin="219"/><clear/>and as a project that may be a very strong public and private partnership working together. 
<time begin="229"/><clear/>The project was originated with the specific intent to eliminate cross town movements in the intermodal move 
<time begin="234"/><clear/>from moving containers from one real terminal to another real terminal 
<time begin="239"/><clear/>specifically focused at the time that we brought it up on Chicago. 
<time begin="244"/><clear/>Since then we have been able to put together a very strong package that includes we'll go over today. 
<time begin="256"/><clear/>The problem statement we've been able to put together, how it affects the community and business, 
<time begin="268"/><clear/>the potential solution we're looking at and really how this project is going from basically 
<time begin="278"/><clear/>a rail to rail cross town project and it has moved into other modes into the ocean carrier to rail, truck rail, 
<time begin="283"/><clear/>and also into the air, truck air mode as being potential. 
<time begin="285"/><clear/>We were really challenged when we started looking at this project of how it could be grown in 
<time begin="292"/><clear/>to be a solution for more than just a few specific areas, 
<time begin="297"/><clear/>how it could be basically a strong domestic solution that can be covered on many different modes. 
<time begin="308"/><clear/>We've also since the project we had initially had partnership between DOT, and the joint program office, and TSA. 
<time begin="318"/><clear/>Where it really started the ground work here and working through IFTWG. 
<time begin="322"/><clear/>The partnership has grown quite a bit, and we'll explore that as we move through it. 
<time begin="327"/><clear/>Let's go to the next slide. 
<time begin="331"/><clear/>Again, the real purpose behind this was to address the interchange of traffic in the metropolitan areas 
<time begin="338"/><clear/>in the truck to rail, and also the rail to truck. 
<time begin="342"/><clear/>Here is some of the reasons if you're not familiar with the reason why 
<time begin="346"/><clear/>you would have a cross town movement between rail terminals, specifically when the rail is -- 
<time begin="352"/><clear/>when the container cannot have a good, clean, steel we'll interchange F 
<time begin="358"/><clear/>there is an issue of time in the container needs to move between two ports or two terminals, 
<time begin="368"/><clear/>in a very expedient manner in fact in order to make connections between trains. 
<time begin="378"/><clear/>When containers have to have cargo added to them, when the service is critical as I have already said with a cut-off, 
<time begin="386"/><clear/>and if there is a specific asset shortage of cars. 
<time begin="388"/><clear/>Those are the real primary reasons why we would want to do some type of cross-town interchange. 
<time begin="401"/><clear/>The rail roads basically link up in the midwest in Chicago, Kansas City, St. Louis, New Orleans, 
<time begin="411"/><clear/>we see specifically where these interchanges takes place right through the midwest. 
<time begin="422"/><clear/>These areas specifically as you can see, Chicago was the main focus as we started this 
<time begin="428"/><clear/>is looking at 20,000 entermodal moves a day, and nearly one third of those moves are cross-town moves. 
<time begin="435"/><clear/>Our initial goal was to how we could eliminate at least  ten percent of the tail moves. 
<time begin="442"/><clear/>As again, let's go into the next slide. 
<time begin="450"/><clear/>We saw the potential in the rail to rail and as we start moving further out 
<time begin="454"/><clear/>we start seeing potential in the port area of the same type of scenario. 
<time begin="459"/><clear/>How could we efficiently move containers from the port and the rail terminals and the next delivery point 
<time begin="463"/><clear/>and utilize the asset coming back to the port, we either bring back chassis or empty containers 
<time begin="470"/><clear/>or get the most out of the movement and eliminate the bobtails. 
<time begin="475"/><clear/>Again, as we started looking further into it, we started looking at the same scenario as in the airport interchanges. 
<time begin="484"/><clear/>This same scenario could really be focused to improve the efficiency with rail interchanges. 
<time begin="490"/><clear/>This was our initial problem statement. 
<time begin="493"/><clear/>The existence of cross-town rubber tire interchange creates conditions 
<time begin="496"/><clear/>that are adversely impact the efficiency of the transportation network. 
<time begin="501"/><clear/>The safety of the motoring public, and the security 
<time begin="505"/><clear/>and quality of life of citizens in the communities through which they takes place. 
<time begin="510"/><clear/>Specifically, let's look at each one of the bullet points here. 
<time begin="515"/><clear/>Interchange volumes expected to increase proportionally in the overall freight volume cycles. 
<time begin="526"/><clear/>Those links work on there, Jennifer? 
<time begin="527"/><clear/>Unfortunately no, I don't think so. 
<time begin="531"/><clear/>I didn't realize those were links at the time. 
<time begin="531"/><clear/>Okay. 
<time begin="535"/><clear/>We can get to them. 
<time begin="535"/><clear/>Okay. 
<time begin="539"/><clear/>We'll have to manually proceed here. 
<time begin="541"/><clear/>The volume increases basically we're looking at the growth over the next 15 to 20 years, 
<time begin="543"/><clear/>and you can see almost the intermodal growth is expected to double. 
<time begin="554"/><clear/>The congestion issues associated with the US, and this is one of the top goals of the DOT focused on right now 
<time begin="564"/><clear/>is congestion mitigation and how we can come up with specific projects 
<time begin="574"/><clear/>that address taking vehicles off the road or redistributing the congestion as certain times of the day. 
<time begin="584"/><clear/>This is to demonstrate where we have been talking about the cross town having major issues. 
<time begin="595"/><clear/>As far as the efficiency of moves again -- we talked about the ten percent reduction 
<time begin="599"/><clear/>in the amount of bobtails moved in a specific area as being our first goal. 
<time begin="604"/><clear/>Estimates from some of the industry participants so far have gone as high as 40 to 50 percent 
<time begin="616"/><clear/>and removing the bobtails from the highways. 
<time begin="620"/><clear/>I think the next area is the air quality issues. 
<time begin="622"/><clear/>We specifically looked at the areas we're addressing here in Chicago, 
<time begin="629"/><clear/>as the areas that are not meeting air quality specifications today that are basically non-attainment. 
<time begin="637"/><clear/>There was another factor that entered in as we started doing further research was the safety issue 
<time begin="647"/><clear/>that a bobtail is basically has a significantly higher rate. 
<time begin="650"/><clear/>You can see there over single or doubles in accidents. 
<time begin="656"/><clear/>This goes back to a fairly old study, 
<time begin="661"/><clear/>but we believe the same exists in respect to a bobtail moving today in the same environment. 
<time begin="669"/><clear/>Of course the security concerns in moving between terminals, 
<time begin="675"/><clear/>loads are really not tracked efficiently between terminals. 
<time begin="680"/><clear/>They are tracked within a confined railroad environment, but moving it from say, UP to the BN, 
<time begin="689"/><clear/>sometimes those movements are not tracked very effectively. 
<time begin="694"/><clear/>The lack of integration between all of the participants, the partners, communication sometimes are basically 
<time begin="702"/><clear/>phone-in facts, and it is a high degree of human intervention in order to make this interchange efficient. 
<time begin="709"/><clear/>Again, we've talked about congestion. 
<time begin="713"/><clear/>We talked about safety, air quality, all of these are huge impacts on the community 
<time begin="720"/><clear/>which makes this project a very strong public and private project that move into achieving benefits from both parties. 
<time begin="730"/><clear/>In order to consider the solution, we had to go beyond just saying we're going to eliminate bobtails. 
<time begin="735"/><clear/>We had to look at if we're going to do this project, 
<time begin="738"/><clear/>how are we going to in respect to the intellectual property after the project's completed? 
<time begin="744"/><clear/>What is the business model for this? 
<time begin="749"/><clear/>Is this a project that can be taken out by once it is completed 
<time begin="754"/><clear/>and moved into a viable business for someone to basically make a profit off of, and what other modes? 
<time begin="763"/><clear/>You can see we already started talking about the port and the air as being additional modes above the rail. 
<time begin="789"/><clear/>We also have -- we also have the issue of whose going to operate this once its completed 
<time begin="794"/><clear/>and what state and local environment involvement will we have with the participants of this project? 
<time begin="807"/><clear/>The solution involves really four specific areas, and we're looking at how we can put together 
<time begin="812"/><clear/>a intermodal exchange database that will allow us to monitor chassis utilization, 
<time begin="819"/><clear/>be able to give the community wireless updates and address the realtime traffic monitor. 
<time begin="827"/><clear/>The four components that we're looking at is an intermodal exchange database which is an open architecture 
<time begin="834"/><clear/>that will provide the collaborative dispatch management for the model giving it all parties involved in it 
<time begin="844"/><clear/>the full updates of locations of containers when they're available to be moved. 
<time begin="848"/><clear/>The wireless updating is basically an open architecture allowing the technology to be interfaced 
<time begin="856"/><clear/>using either cell phones, PDAs or any wireless mode that would be available to the dredge operator. 
<time begin="864"/><clear/>The chassis utilization we talked about moving loads, we also have the capability of focusing on 
<time begin="871"/><clear/>how we can better position chassis in order to get the full efficiency out of the bobtail movement. 
<time begin="879"/><clear/>Involvement of realtime traffic monitoring, knowing where the traffic at, the congestion, the distribution, 
<time begin="885"/><clear/>over the specific route and alternatives such as closed routes it be identified 
<time begin="893"/><clear/>and specific travel time identified to basically eliminate congestion. 
<time begin="900"/><clear/>I am going to skip through a few of these slides. 
<time begin="902"/><clear/>Why do we want to choose Kansas City? 
<time begin="909"/><clear/>Why specifically did we want to focus on a smaller area, less than Chicago? 
<time begin="914"/><clear/>It is because Kansas City is the second largest rail hub in the U.S. 
<time begin="917"/><clear/>We felt like Kansas City would be a viable project that would basically give us the same benefits 
<time begin="925"/><clear/>that Chicago would be able to prove at a very lower scope and less expensive, 
<time begin="933"/><clear/>and becomes very visible to the public with the benefit. 
<time begin="940"/><clear/>This is a quick layout of Kansas City, 
<time begin="942"/><clear/>how the partners in respect to moving the containers teen the terminals that have been identified. 
<time begin="950"/><clear/>Right now we've actually increased the partners. 
<time begin="954"/><clear/>Initially we started with the private partners, UPB and SL and the trucking community in Greer, 
<time begin="962"/><clear/>intermodal terminal services, mid-cities, we also grown it to include the Missouri DOT, 
<time begin="973"/><clear/>the Kansas City Smart Court, and the Mid-American Regional Council. 
<time begin="977"/><clear/>All of these have been included in the solution and how we can optimized the flow of the containers 
<time begin="987"/><clear/>and also focus on the congestion and the safety. 
<time begin="992"/><clear/>This is a quick overview of the exactly what each participant part would be in it. 
<time begin="998"/><clear/>Specifically let's start with the TSA on the left-hand side. 
<time begin="1001"/><clear/>We already have the approved funding for TSA. 
<time begin="1004"/><clear/>This project actually is underway. 
<time begin="1009"/><clear/>The contract has been given to SAIC. 
<time begin="1013"/><clear/>They're in the process of doing their kick-off meeting. 
<time begin="1017"/><clear/>We'll be doing the kick-off meeting on may the second in Chicago. 
<time begin="1022"/><clear/>This specifically is focused on how the security and how the flows within this environment can be improved. 
<time begin="1030"/><clear/>We have been looking and talking with the state of Missouri. 
<time begin="1035"/><clear/>There is another congestion ITS project that's been focused on freight, that has been way for some time. 
<time begin="1046"/><clear/>There is ability to merge this product in with it in order to make it 
<time begin="1057"/><clear/>again focusing on the public improvement side. 
<time begin="1063"/><clear/>We have the carriers involved again, B N, UP, NS, KCS have all focus 
<time begin="1068"/><clear/>and had participated in putting together the requirements. 
<time begin="1071"/><clear/>We've been working with several other third parties including smart port 
<time begin="1078"/><clear/>which is really a public private relationship, and of course our office and U.S. DOT Federal Highway 
<time begin="1086"/><clear/>and the joint program office, and we're in the process of requesting funds that is kind of not on hold 
<time begin="1094"/><clear/>but at a kind of a waiting period right now 
<time begin="1100"/><clear/>until we get a few things in respect to organization worked out here at COT. 
<time begin="1106"/><clear/>We have statements of support from state of Missouri, railroad companies, trucking companies and Iand. 
<time begin="1112"/><clear/>What are the next steps? 
<time begin="1116"/><clear/>Basically we've already done most of the time work in identifying the concept of operations from a very high level. 
<time begin="1122"/><clear/>We've done our work in deciding where we would like to go for funding. 
<time begin="1129"/><clear/>Really our next step is to do the user needs assessment. 
<time begin="1134"/><clear/>This will take us into really getting a good, clean concept of operations, 
<time begin="1142"/><clear/>and hopefully we will be starting that within the next few months. 
<time begin="1146"/><clear/>Again, this project is focused specifically on interchanges of intermodal equipment, 
<time begin="1151"/><clear/>and how we can improve the efficiency, safety and environment, the public environment, 
<time begin="1156"/><clear/>so you can see as it's all come together, one of the really key pieces of this 
<time begin="1160"/><clear/>was the really true public/private relationship. 
<time begin="1163"/><clear/>I think once we can pull everybody together and get it on track we'll have a very successful project. 
<time begin="1173"/><clear/>These were some business case overviews. 
<time begin="1177"/><clear/>I am not going to go through them in any great detail. 
<time begin="1179"/><clear/>They were set up in a presentation to actually do the links as I was talking about them, 
<time begin="1186"/><clear/>the business case overview associated with 
<time begin="1189"/><clear/>each one of the four components, we had the intermodal exchange database, 
<time begin="1199"/><clear/>we've gone through each one of these and done the analysis to support the requirements for the owner, operator, 
<time begin="1210"/><clear/>the intelligent property, the business model, the state, local involvement, and you can see each one of them 
<time begin="1218"/><clear/>has specifically been identified on we can handle each one of those requirements. 
<time begin="1223"/><clear/>That pretty well takes care of the overview of CTIP. 
<time begin="1228"/><clear/>If we have a little time here, I will open the floor up for questions while worry here 
<time begin="1240"/><clear/>and we will go on to the next overview with Paul. 
<time begin="1248"/><clear/>Did we get any questions here? 
<time begin="1271"/><clear/>Are there any questions? 
<time begin="1288"/><clear/>Let's continue on then and come back to it. 
<time begin="1288"/><clear/>Okay. 
<time begin="1290"/><clear/>Most of you know who I am. 
<time begin="1293"/><clear/>We're going to talk briefly about what we have planned for the Oak Brook meeting in May. 
<time begin="1298"/><clear/>If you haven't already signed up for it, you can find out more details about it on the IFTWG website. 
<time begin="1311"/><clear/>If you go to www.intermodal.org there is a link on the left-hand side of the screen 
<time begin="1317"/><clear/>that says Intermodal Freight Technology Working Group. 
<time begin="1319"/><clear/>If you click on that, it will give you an update of what's going on 
<time begin="1323"/><clear/>and see what the agenda is for the Oak Brook meeting. 
<time begin="1325"/><clear/>We'll talk about that. 
<time begin="1327"/><clear/>I would recommend that if you have not already registered and you plan to go, please do that soon. 
<time begin="1335"/><clear/>Helps us to get a head count of it also helps you to get accommodations and airlines 
<time begin="1343"/><clear/>and I know the accommodations are start to go get thin. 
<time begin="1346"/><clear/>The Oak Brook meeting preview, we're quickly going to talk about what the focus of the meeting is, 
<time begin="1353"/><clear/>what the agenda is, what we hope to get out of it 
<time begin="1356"/><clear/>and I will share with you a couple of other thoughts we collected in planning for it. 
<time begin="1362"/><clear/>This slide talks about the really basically every IFTWG meeting has four main goals. 
<time begin="1367"/><clear/>One is to keep everybody informed of what we're doing, including new and ongoing projects, internal IFTWG, 
<time begin="1377"/><clear/>and other projects that are important for us to keep track of and to stay in touch with. 
<time begin="1384"/><clear/>Discussing major topics of interest, we've had round tables, industry and government round tables 
<time begin="1388"/><clear/>for the last couple of meetings, and they've gone very well and have been very useful to help us focus our efforts. 
<time begin="1394"/><clear/>Completing important work tasks. 
<time begin="1398"/><clear/>This is something we've tried to institute over the last year-and-a-half or so 
<time begin="1403"/><clear/>to make sure we're accomplishing tangible progress at each one of the meetings, and then obviously, 
<time begin="1410"/><clear/>because an in-person meeting giving the stock exchange holders a chance to get together and brainstorm 
<time begin="1418"/><clear/>and share ideas and network because quite often a glass of wine is a good lube can't to get good ideas flowing. 
<time begin="1427"/><clear/>Oak Brook in particular we will update progress on the CTIP project. 
<time begin="1431"/><clear/>Those of you who are on this meeting, I don't know that there will be anything really new there. 
<time begin="1439"/><clear/>We will probably cover it in more detail. 
<time begin="1439"/><clear/>You never know. 
<time begin="1442"/><clear/>There may be a surprise or two coming. 
<time begin="1445"/><clear/>We're also going to talk about the EFM project that's been going on for how long, Randy, about a year-and-a-half? 
<time begin="1449"/><clear/>Yeah. 
<time begin="1450"/><clear/>A couple years maybe. 
<time begin="1454"/><clear/>You will get an update on that, and I think, Kate, you're on the hook to present that. 
<time begin="1457"/><clear/>Yep. 
<time begin="1458"/><clear/>We'll have another round table. 
<time begin="1460"/><clear/>This time we're going to talk about an issue that's going to be important for us to really get to the meat of it 
<time begin="1469"/><clear/>that we're going to continue forward with efforts like CTIP and that's addressing the whole issue 
<time begin="1478"/><clear/>of using data that's captured or generated by private industry for quote, the greater good. 
<time begin="1487"/><clear/>Not just for the public sector to use to improve conditions but also for private sector partnerships 
<time begin="1493"/><clear/>such as what we're proposing in CTIP so they can improve the efficiency of their operations. 
<time begin="1500"/><clear/>We're going to talk about sharing that information, what kind of restrictions there might be on it, 
<time begin="1508"/><clear/>what we can do to make sure it is protect 
<time begin="1511"/><clear/>and hopefully get down to really useful insights that will help the projects move forward. 
<time begin="1520"/><clear/>We will conduct work sessions as we always do to focus on two distinct things. 
<time begin="1524"/><clear/>One, we're going to focus on some of the work we've been doing to identify future funding sources for projects, 
<time begin="1530"/><clear/>those of you that have been involved with the group for awhile know we did a high level look at that back in late 2004. 
<time begin="1539"/><clear/>We started to refine that process, eliminate the unlikely sources 
<time begin="1542"/><clear/>and get more detail for some of the more likely sources that we can look to in the future 
<time begin="1546"/><clear/>to continue to get funding for these projects. 
<time begin="1549"/><clear/>We're also going to talk about something we're going to start touching on today, 
<time begin="1554"/><clear/>and those are what we think some of the possibilities are for projects to come out 
<time begin="1560"/><clear/>of the last round table discussion that we had in the Anaheim, where we talked about disaster related operations. 
<time begin="1568"/><clear/>Finally, I mentioned already about the opportunity to network. 
<time begin="1572"/><clear/>There is going to be a networking reception on the evening of the first for all IFTWG regular constraints 
<time begin="1580"/><clear/>and always want to encourage those who come to the sessions 
<time begin="1584"/><clear/>remember we are running these this concert with and in parallel with IANA events. 
<time begin="1590"/><clear/>Every spring it is the Operations/Maintenance seminar which we will be lining up with in Oak Brook, 
<time begin="1595"/><clear/>and every technically I guess it is winter, fall, November. 
<time begin="1599"/><clear/>November is fall. 
<time begin="1601"/><clear/>With the Annual Expo, and it is a great opportunity to spend some time with a lot of folks from the industry 
<time begin="1607"/><clear/>to get some ideas from them and to learn from them about what their operations are like. 
<time begin="1614"/><clear/>It is a great opportunity to mix and maybe he will with people who have a distinct impact on what the IFTWG can do. 
<time begin="1623"/><clear/>This is the planned agenda for Oklahoma. 
<time begin="1625"/><clear/>We talked about most of these things already. 
<time begin="1630"/><clear/>You can see what the timetables are. 
<time begin="1632"/><clear/>And who the presenters are. 
<time begin="1634"/><clear/>If your name appears on this list and you weren't aware of it, it is a pleasant surprise for you, I guess. 
<time begin="1642"/><clear/>It will be -- it is a two-day event. 
<time begin="1646"/><clear/>It is a partial day for each series. 
<time begin="1650"/><clear/>We start around mid day on the first and end up at 4:30 and have the networking reception and pick up the next day 
<time begin="1658"/><clear/>and run until about 10 a.m., and of course before the day one activities, potentially 
<time begin="1664"/><clear/>and after the day two activities there will be opportunities for more specific work 
<time begin="1672"/><clear/>to be done on IFTWG related initiatives, and I suspect we'll make use of some of those, right, Randy? 
<time begin="1679"/><clear/>The output we hope to bring out of Oak Brook from the round table as we always do, we're looking for issues 
<time begin="1688"/><clear/>and opportunities, and in in case related to data sharing issues, 
<time begin="1693"/><clear/>and most definitely an action agenda for determining what our next steps are to address the issues. 
<time begin="1702"/><clear/>From the funding discussions, in addition to just the nice discussion about what the opportunities are 
<time begin="1708"/><clear/>and perhaps an expansion of those opportunities, 
<time begin="1710"/><clear/>we'll also have to define some actions to move forward to put ourselves in position 
<time begin="1716"/><clear/>to hopefully take advantage of those funding opportunities 
<time begin="1718"/><clear/>and also to align whatever proposed projects for propping with the funding opportunities. 
<time begin="1726"/><clear/>For the disaster related operations discussion, continue to go carry that forward 
<time begin="1731"/><clear/>and I will give you more sense of what we're expecting there with we talk about the next presentation. 
<time begin="1737"/><clear/>And the project update session, it is always about keeping people abreast 
<time begin="1743"/><clear/>of what we're trying to do and getting feedback. 
<time begin="1746"/><clear/>Once these projects are formulated so to speak, 
<time begin="1748"/><clear/>it discept necessarily mean that they people go off into a locked room and develop them in secret. 
<time begin="1754"/><clear/>The idea is to continually get feedback from the public and private sector to refine the project. 
<time begin="1766"/><clear/>I already mentioned that we coincide with the IANA Operation Maintenance Seminar. 
<time begin="1770"/><clear/>There really is good material there and good opportunities and would encourage to you all take part. 
<time begin="1777"/><clear/>It does mean an additional expense to sign up for the ONM Seminar. 
<time begin="1780"/><clear/>They are a really good session and is events through the Domestic Chassis Pool workshop. 
<time begin="1802"/><clear/>...Through Visibility is another good session. 
<time begin="1809"/><clear/>I encourage you to register as soon as possible. 
<time begin="1812"/><clear/>Somebody needs to hit a mute button out there. 
<time begin="1817"/><clear/>Whoever just joined has to hit mute. 
<time begin="1820"/><clear/>If there are any questions on this, if you want to type them in the chat area, 
<time begin="1823"/><clear/>we'll keep moving so we don't keep people too long. 
<time begin="1833"/><clear/>The last presentation of the day, when we met many Anaheim back in November, 
<time begin="1846"/><clear/>what's happened in the wake of hurricane Katrina and Rita. 
<time begin="1853"/><clear/>The freight network and we talked about some of the underlying issues that were revealed 
<time begin="1861"/><clear/>in terms of how we efficiently respond to disasters and also how we keep operations moving forward. 
<time begin="1874"/><clear/>I will briefly review that session and call for early thoughts for a group of people, some of which are on this call 
<time begin="1885"/><clear/>and provided input in terms of what we can do in directing IFTWG related... 
<time begin="1893"/><clear/>If someone is calling in from a cell phone and you don't have a mute button, you can press star six. 
<time begin="1899"/><clear/>I can barely hear anything now whoever just called in. 
<time begin="1912"/><clear/>If you have a cell phone, hit the star six, and it will mute it. 
<time begin="1915"/><clear/>Sounds like the noise has disappeared. 
<time begin="1917"/><clear/>Can everyone hear now? 
<time begin="1918"/><clear/>Yep. 
<time begin="1918"/><clear/>Great. 
<time begin="1923"/><clear/>Very good. 
<time begin="1923"/><clear/>Thank you. 
<time begin="1923"/><clear/>Okay. 
<time begin="1925"/><clear/>We're going to talk about what happened in Anaheim, some of the conclusions that were drawn 
<time begin="1932"/><clear/>and what this group of volunteers came up with in terms of thoughts for moving forward, 
<time begin="1939"/><clear/>and what some of the next steps would be. 
<time begin="1941"/><clear/>Just to real quickly recap Anaheim, the idea behind it, the whole voluntary panel was to extract the needs 
<time begin="1949"/><clear/>and issues identified during the discussion and as I mentioned come up with some ideas 
<time begin="1956"/><clear/>that would enhance operations before during and after disaster events. 
<time begin="1964"/><clear/>You see on the bottom of the slide here, the seven -- volunteers to support that effort. 
<time begin="1984"/><clear/>I will say thank you to the volunteers who offered up suggestions and participated so far. 
<time begin="1989"/><clear/>The round table consisted of a number of people from private industry. 
<time begin="1994"/><clear/>You can see here it is representation from trucking and rail, and ocean carriers, 
<time begin="1999"/><clear/>and we focused on experiences during and after hurricanes Katrina and Rita, the problems that were encountered. 
<time begin="2009"/><clear/>We asked the panelists to give us a sense of whether or not the problems they had were systemic in nature, 
<time begin="2017"/><clear/>something we were likely to see again that were worthwhile pursuing solutions, still, 
<time begin="2026"/><clear/>and also to give us a sense of whether or not those problems were really solvable in any practical manner. 
<time begin="2033"/><clear/>A general conclusion, you can see them here. 
<time begin="2037"/><clear/>The underlying text kind of summarizes what we really heard from the panelists. 
<time begin="2045"/><clear/>There were problems with coordination, among and in between countries and agencies. 
<time begin="2052"/><clear/>You will see there were when you think about what those storms did, 
<time begin="2056"/><clear/>you don't always often remember that workers are displaced in addition to infrastructure 
<time begin="2064"/><clear/>and facilities being damaged and assets being destroyed. 
<time begin="2067"/><clear/>Even if your facilities make it through, it was clear that displacement of workers was a major issue there, 
<time begin="2075"/><clear/>and at a very difficult time communicating with those workers 
<time begin="2078"/><clear/>and with whatever facilities were still around because infrastructure was really damaged. 
<time begin="2084"/><clear/>Pick up any papers since Katrina and Rita, and you will see there was a general acknowledgement 
<time begin="2090"/><clear/>that coordination was very difficult, 
<time begin="2093"/><clear/>and it wasn't just within the government but also between government and industry. 
<time begin="2100"/><clear/>The panelists seemed to agree that many of the problems were solvable, 
<time begin="2104"/><clear/>although I think there was a general acknowledgement that some of these are very large in scale, 
<time begin="2110"/><clear/>and that they would take some very creative, perhaps step wise kind of actions to address them. 
<time begin="2116"/><clear/>Information access and distribution was really at the root of a lot of the problems, 
<time begin="2126"/><clear/>the lack thereof was at the root of a lot of problems. 
<time begin="2129"/><clear/>And as a result, there was a general consensus 
<time begin="2134"/><clear/>that there is opportunity for technology related solutions to have an impact. 
<time begin="2141"/><clear/>Those of you who had a chance to look at the minutes from the meeting saw the summary of the issues, 
<time begin="2149"/><clear/>causes and potential solutions talked about during that discussion. 
<time begin="2153"/><clear/>They really boil down to two major categories, common between and among stakeholders 
<time begin="2169"/><clear/>and also coordination between government and industry. 
<time begin="2177"/><clear/>You can see on slide infrastructure damage satellite bandwidth 
<time begin="2181"/><clear/>and caused folks in the commercial sector who had to use that for management and coordination 
<time begin="2188"/><clear/>and problems with delaying messages getting to them. 
<time begin="2191"/><clear/>Even those who were involved with the response, and then under the coordination 
<time begin="2196"/><clear/>this is a challenge we always have under these swags -- such a large number of people with varying missions 
<time begin="2203"/><clear/>and varying priorities and a general shortage of comprehensive 
<time begin="2213"/><clear/>and easily accessible information that coordination is very difficult to accomplish. 
<time begin="2218"/><clear/>Some of the potential solutions that were talked about were looking at existing models 
<time begin="2225"/><clear/>and other applications and trying to gather what we can about best practices. 
<time begin="2232"/><clear/>The panel took -- the volunteer group I mentioned earlier took that information 
<time begin="2236"/><clear/>and started to try to formulate some ideas as to what kinds of projects possibly could be undertaken. 
<time begin="2246"/><clear/>In order to do that, we tried to boil down what we heard 
<time begin="2249"/><clear/>and what we read to some pretty high level group observations 
<time begin="2256"/><clear/>that benefited from the opportunity of looking at these things a second time. 
<time begin="2264"/><clear/>You will see here that each one of these comments is attributed to the project identification team. 
<time begin="2275"/><clear/>If I inaccurately state what your thoughts or observations was or conclusion was, 
<time begin="2280"/><clear/>each of these folks has had a chance to review this. 
<time begin="2282"/><clear/>Obviously, when I do it verbally I hey change something, but I would invite those who are on the line 
<time begin="2288"/><clear/>to were part of this team to clarify very briefly if you could if I erroneously state what it is we talked about. 
<time begin="2298"/><clear/>The first was offered by Rob Rosenberg. 
<time begin="2304"/><clear/>He indicated that the different missions for example release supply chain versus asset recovery. 
<time begin="2312"/><clear/>Really contributed to some disconnects, the different organization and is what they were trying to accomplish. 
<time begin="2319"/><clear/>Statement there were overlapping concerns that could be addressed simultaneously 
<time begin="2327"/><clear/>if we can just come up with a flexible solution that offers better coordination. 
<time begin="2332"/><clear/>Mike Wolf offered better government industry coordination if required 
<time begin="2342"/><clear/>or necessary regarding satellite communication bandwidth for free transportation. 
<time begin="2350"/><clear/>I mentioned the mill has good practices for operations under stress. 
<time begin="2356"/><clear/>Obviously they operate under stress quite a bit and we could probably extract good practices from their effort. 
<time begin="2361"/><clear/>Mark Jenson offered up that this is one of those cases where possibly getting the stakeholders together 
<time begin="2369"/><clear/>and developing a bottom's up approach might be more successful 
<time begin="2376"/><clear/>than relying on direction from the highest levels in DOT and DSS. 
<time begin="2381"/><clear/>We can potentially offer up solutions that are more practical 
<time begin="2385"/><clear/>than someone who might be more disconnected from the actual operations on the ground. 
<time begin="2391"/><clear/>Early thoughts and project ideas, you will see here we have six general ideas, 
<time begin="2399"/><clear/>none of which are fully formed, but there are some ideas to consider as we move forward. 
<time begin="2408"/><clear/>Mark indicated mobile command posts might be useful here. 
<time begin="2412"/><clear/>We mention that had communication break downs were a major issue and I think Mark's point 
<time begin="2422"/><clear/>was mobile units that go out and basically temporarily put back in place the network that are very helpful -- 
<time begin="2429"/><clear/>I want to add there the port in New York and New Jersey have a couple of these units 
<time begin="2434"/><clear/>and loaned them for the Katrina operations and they were pretty successful. 
<time begin="2440"/><clear/>The idea is to take that kind of public sector kind of concept 
<time begin="2444"/><clear/>and allow the private sector to be able to utilize the technologies during an emergency. 
<time begin="2451"/><clear/>Very good. 
<time begin="2451"/><clear/>Thanks, Mark. 
<time begin="2455"/><clear/>There are probably a lot of technologies out there that may have some -- 
<time begin="2460"/><clear/>that are being used in other environments that could be useful circumstances, 
<time begin="2469"/><clear/>and it might be useful to catalog those, get more information about them, make that available. 
<time begin="2474"/><clear/>Or also mentioned that some kind of master inventory management system that focus on the location of supplies 
<time begin="2483"/><clear/>rather than just those that are around the country rather than just those that are under -- 
<time begin="2488"/><clear/>already under government program control might be useful to have 
<time begin="2492"/><clear/>so that you can get access through relief supplies that are potentially in closer proximity 
<time begin="2498"/><clear/>and less difficult to get to the scene of an incident than those that are stored in warehouses. 
<time begin="2507"/><clear/>Paul, it is Irvin, if I can add one comment to that. 
<time begin="2511"/><clear/>When we do hear DHS about trying to have logistics or rented systems it is not explained as well 
<time begin="2518"/><clear/>by but these are the systems he is talking about, the ability to know 
<time begin="2523"/><clear/>where supplies are regardless of the actual location or ownership of particular warehouses, 
<time begin="2530"/><clear/>and that has not been explained from what at least I hear in DHS when they talk about the explicitly, 
<time begin="2536"/><clear/>but this is what impact is implied, and this could be an answer to what they're looking for at least to this unit here. 
<time begin="2545"/><clear/>Okay. 
<time begin="2546"/><clear/>Very well. 
<time begin="2550"/><clear/>Thank you, Irvin, appreciate that. 
<time begin="2554"/><clear/>Rob Rosenberg, next bullet on the slide here. 
<time begin="2560"/><clear/>Rob Rosenberg indicated that FEMA currently doing work with Matrix.org, 
<time begin="2565"/><clear/>looking into total asset with visibility prior to and after disasters. 
<time begin="2570"/><clear/>They are supposed to have something preliminary up by the summer of 2006. 
<time begin="2574"/><clear/>(silence) 
<time begin="2583"/><clear/>Someone put the line on hold. 
<time begin="2588"/><clear/>That's nice. 
<time begin="2596"/><clear/>Jennifer? 
<time begin="2600"/><clear/>I think somebody put their phone on hold, it sounds like. 
<time begin="2600"/><clear/>(music) 
<time begin="2603"/><clear/>I am trying to type a note and see if we can get them to take it off. 
<time begin="2609"/><clear/>Is there any way to cut off all audio from all sources? 
<time begin="2623"/><clear/>I believe it is star eight will do that. 
<time begin="2630"/><clear/>(music) 
<time begin="2642"/><clear/>So far that hasn't helped. 
<time begin="2642"/><clear/>(music) 
<time begin="2654"/><clear/>Star five. 
<time begin="2661"/><clear/>That didn't work. 
<time begin="2661"/><clear/>Try star five. 
<time begin="2670"/><clear/>Why don't you just disconnect and call back in. 
<time begin="2674"/><clear/>The person on hold won't know that, though, right? 
<time begin="2680"/><clear/>If they're on hold it will no longer be connected. 
<time begin="2681"/><clear/>They would be. 
<time begin="2683"/><clear/>They're still called into the conference line, though. 
<time begin="2686"/><clear/>Why don't we do a roll call and figure out who it is and shoot them an e-mail until it is gone? 
<time begin="2693"/><clear/>There it is. 
<time begin="2697"/><clear/>I can bring the operator on and see if they can tell. 
<time begin="2762"/><clear/>That would be helpful. 
<time begin="2769"/><clear/>I am going to go down the list of folks on the attendee list. 
<time begin="2782"/><clear/>Steve. 
<time begin="2782"/><clear/>Yes. 
<time begin="2783"/><clear/>Todd Shafer. 
<time begin="2785"/><clear/>Yes. 
<time begin="2794"/><clear/>Say again. 
<time begin="2811"/><clear/>Now joining. 
<time begin="2815"/><clear/>Jennifer. 
<time begin="2822"/><clear/>Dan Murray is here. 
<time begin="2831"/><clear/>Shop, are you there? 
<time begin="2841"/><clear/>There is no way to pull that person off because we don't know which line it is coming from. 
<time begin="2845"/><clear/>Why don't you hang them all up. 
<time begin="2848"/><clear/>Can we terminate the call and call back in? 
<time begin="2848"/><clear/>Will that do it? 
<time begin="2852"/><clear/>This is the operator. 
<time begin="2855"/><clear/>I can disconnect that line for you. 
<time begin="2856"/><clear/>Do it. 
<time begin="2862"/><clear/>I was waiting for the person -- I think it was Jenny's. 
<time begin="2862"/><clear/>Yes. 
<time begin="2865"/><clear/>Are you doing star eight? 
<time begin="2868"/><clear/>We don't know which line it is coming from would be the problem. 
<time begin="2870"/><clear/>Do you want me to hang up the line, right. 
<time begin="2870"/><clear/>Right. 
<time begin="2881"/><clear/>I will disconnect the line. 
<time begin="2881"/><clear/>Thank you. 
<time begin="2882"/><clear/>Good. 
<time begin="2883"/><clear/>You're welcome. 
<time begin="2885"/><clear/>Thank you. 
<time begin="2886"/><clear/>Thanks. 
<time begin="2886"/><clear/>All right. 
<time begin="2890"/><clear/>We'll just finish with the slide here then. 
<time begin="2894"/><clear/>I think we were down to reviewing the work that FEMA is currently doing with Matrix.org. 
<time begin="2899"/><clear/>There is supposed to be something up by the summer of 2006, for fixed assets, and as Rob Rosenberg indicated, 
<time begin="2909"/><clear/>they're linking into a visibility network for assets both during and after disasters. 
<time begin="2916"/><clear/>Mike Wolf indicated that there might be worthwhile to engage in an effort to figure out whether or not there are -- 
<time begin="2923"/><clear/>in other words, determine whether or not they were isolated incidents 
<time begin="2926"/><clear/>or a systemic break down in fleet management incidents because of lack of bandwidth with... 
<time begin="2933"/><clear/>This is Mike. 
<time begin="2939"/><clear/>Can you hear me? 
<time begin="2940"/><clear/>Yes. 
<time begin="2950"/><clear/>This is one of the major areas stimulated the formulation of the volunteers. 
<time begin="2956"/><clear/>I talked to a couple of folks about about varying stories about whether there was an issue 
<time begin="2962"/><clear/>or how clear it was or whether the it was really cellular or ground based communications. 
<time begin="2973"/><clear/>It seems to me before charging off in any particular direction it is worth a small effort to suggest 
<time begin="2980"/><clear/>and get a handle on whether or not how the communication gaps played out 
<time begin="2984"/><clear/>particularly whether they were satellite placed, freight management, shortfalls, and -- 
<time begin="2994"/><clear/>I think an important precursor to any initiative is to try to gain more intelligence about whether or not 
<time begin="3002"/><clear/>the problems that were experienced were systemic. 
<time begin="3005"/><clear/>We asked the panel their opinion of whether or not they were systemic 
<time begin="3009"/><clear/>and in some cases they were able to offer responses that indicated they thought it was. 
<time begin="3014"/><clear/>In others it is just difficult to know how far reaching the problem is, and I think with every one of these  -- 
<time begin="3022"/><clear/>initiatives it is important to recognize there is a gathering effort that must go on at the start of these projects, 
<time begin="3029"/><clear/>to get smarter about whether or not what we're talking about doing is a worthwhile endeavor 
<time begin="3036"/><clear/>and Randy has spent a lot of time over the last year-and-a-half or so 
<time begin="3040"/><clear/>putting in place a project selection process that really ferrets that out. 
<time begin="3047"/><clear/>If there are gaps in an understanding about a problem that prevent us from determining whether or not 
<time begin="3052"/><clear/>an initiative makes a lot of sense, then it will be reviewed in that process. 
<time begin="3056"/><clear/>Paul, this is Mike. 
<time begin="3058"/><clear/>Paul? 
<time begin="3058"/><clear/>Yes. 
<time begin="3059"/><clear/>Dan, quick question. 
<time begin="3062"/><clear/>I couldn't here Mike Wolf, just now. 
<time begin="3068"/><clear/>I am confused about the GAAP in coverage. 
<time begin="3071"/><clear/>Obviously, the satellites themselves aren't impacted from the storm. 
<time begin="3075"/><clear/>Is the assumption a local trucking company who loses its dispatch or communication center 
<time begin="3085"/><clear/>that loses coverage of its trucks, not that they would lose coverage 
<time begin="3088"/><clear/>because their trucks still have satellite transponders, satellite systems running overhead. 
<time begin="3095"/><clear/>Can you hear me now, Dan? 
<time begin="3101"/><clear/>What we said at the meeting is of it an issue of government agencies 
<time begin="3106"/><clear/>claiming greater portions of satellite bandwidth -- 
<time begin="3108"/><clear/>I can't hear Mike, very well. 
<time begin="3110"/><clear/>I don't know if it is his connection or not. 
<time begin="3112"/><clear/>I can clear it. 
<time begin="3114"/><clear/>I know what Mike is talking about. 
<time begin="3117"/><clear/>Basically, what he is saying is during the meeting it was discussed there was a thought at least, 
<time begin="3119"/><clear/>and I don't think we clarified it because we haven't had a chance to investigate it. 
<time begin="3127"/><clear/>There was a thought at that there were other users of bandwidth most notably the public sector 
<time begin="3133"/><clear/>using up more of the available satellite bandwidth 
<time begin="3136"/><clear/>and were taking away some of the bandwidth from transportation providers. 
<time begin="3144"/><clear/>As long as the satellites are sector and Federal Highway and those... 
<time begin="3150"/><clear/>We have a project that collects satellite truck position data. 
<time begin="3154"/><clear/>We were able to watch basically traffic movement in and around Katrina and Rita, 
<time begin="3159"/><clear/>and we didn't see any reduction in the number of units that we were managing. 
<time begin="3167"/><clear/>That's one of the reasons Mike brought up his point. 
<time begin="3170"/><clear/>We don't know the extent to which that was happening if it happened at all. 
<time begin="3174"/><clear/>The anecdotal evident offered by Eric Fuller, 
<time begin="3179"/><clear/>is they were having tremendous delays in message transmission during and immediately after the hurricane. 
<time begin="3190"/><clear/>Whether it was just a matter of the system being loaded so heavily -- we don't know that. 
<time begin="3194"/><clear/>I think that's Mike's point is we don't be the source of that. 
<time begin="3196"/><clear/>We don't know the extent to which it happened. 
<time begin="3199"/><clear/>It may have been an isolated case. 
<time begin="3203"/><clear/>And they're in a new GPS system and to longer using the vendor we use so we couldn't comment on that. 
<time begin="3208"/><clear/>Most of the time communication satellites there are no problems. 
<time begin="3209"/><clear/>Right. 
<time begin="3213"/><clear/>It is a point to investigate. 
<time begin="3216"/><clear/>The last one we talked about and moving on because we're running on low on time here, 
<time begin="3220"/><clear/>the last one was the idea of looking at putting in place 
<time begin="3222"/><clear/>some sort of coordinated network of disaster response logistics systems 
<time begin="3231"/><clear/>that relies on some set of triggers to open up communications lines and data flows between providers. 
<time begin="3241"/><clear/>In other words, it wouldn't necessarily expose database information to folks on an ongoing basis 
<time begin="3248"/><clear/>or to different response providers 
<time begin="3250"/><clear/>and on an ongoing basis only during certain conditions with those communications lines be open 
<time begin="3257"/><clear/>and then it would be on a limited basis based on the immediate need. 
<time begin="3262"/><clear/>Those are just early ideas, and obviously there are probably dozens of more we can think of. 
<time begin="3268"/><clear/>The important thing to remember here is this initial consideration by the small group, 
<time begin="3273"/><clear/>these will need to be refined and reformulated and at some point brought before the IFTWG for consideration, 
<time begin="3280"/><clear/>and that this set of next steps defines what we think is going to have to happen next. 
<time begin="3286"/><clear/>Everything from adding detail and looking at whether or not they were consistent with the IFTWG mission 
<time begin="3293"/><clear/>to getting industry and government stakeholder feedback, 
<time begin="3296"/><clear/>and once it gets through the initial coordination discussion phases, 
<time begin="3300"/><clear/>if there is still something that survives the process, putting it into the project review process 
<time begin="3307"/><clear/>and hopefully coming out with something on the far end that makes sense to pursue. 
<time begin="3312"/><clear/>I want to make one quick comment here, 
<time begin="3314"/><clear/>especially about the follow-up that we've done so far with this project from Anaheim, the round table discussion. 
<time begin="3322"/><clear/>This is a same process we're looking at 
<time begin="3325"/><clear/>and basically taking the next round table on the data sharing and moving it into 
<time begin="3332"/><clear/>possibly some project ideas by listening to both the public and private sectors coming together 
<time begin="3338"/><clear/>and putting their ideas together like we've seen on this disaster recovery project. 
<time begin="3344"/><clear/>We can formulate some pretty good projects out that may fit with IFTWG. 
<time begin="3352"/><clear/>One other quick comment before we wrap it up, can you move that screen over, Paul? 
<time begin="3366"/><clear/>I think Gunther had a question or made a comment. 
<time begin="3369"/><clear/>Gunther, on the OC, yes, we are Salt Lake talking with SEMA on what we're doing at Kansas City. 
<time begin="3373"/><clear/>Okay. 
<time begin="3373"/><clear/>Thanks. 
<time begin="3375"/><clear/>Appreciate that. 
<time begin="3380"/><clear/>That's a good observation. 
<time begin="3387"/><clear/>The follow-up from this meeting will be again from these last projects that Paul just put forward 
<time begin="3395"/><clear/>will continue to work on this and refine this into something that we can put together as a project. 
<time begin="3400"/><clear/>Again, going back to this Oak Brook agenda, 
<time begin="3406"/><clear/>I would really like to point out in the meeting on Tuesday morning, from 1:30 on -- 8:30 on, 
<time begin="3413"/><clear/>we have been looking at ITS joint as a means of funding projects. 
<time begin="3418"/><clear/>We have been doing quite a bit of research. 
<time begin="3424"/><clear/>I see Jordan Howard with Dell can, and Paul have been doing a tremendous amount of research. 
<time begin="3428"/><clear/>We have come up with nine different paths we can take projects now, 
<time begin="3434"/><clear/>and what we're going to be exploring on Tuesday morning is all of the processes associated with it, 
<time begin="3443"/><clear/>and looking at what we can do to support moving projects through these areas. 
<time begin="3448"/><clear/>Just briefly run through the list that you -- I know we have -- 
<time begin="3456"/><clear/>there are three cooperative research programs administered by the transportation research board. 
<time begin="3462"/><clear/>There is the ITS funds we talked about before. 
<time begin="3466"/><clear/>There is CDOT we looked at before as a group, 
<time begin="3469"/><clear/>and for whatever reason we weren't able to lineup with what we really have going on. 
<time begin="3474"/><clear/>They're out of Cal State, Long Beach. 
<time begin="3479"/><clear/>There is the SBR program, small business administrative research program. 
<time begin="3484"/><clear/>There are existing congressionally mandated projects that have funds associated with them. 
<time begin="3494"/><clear/>Some of them from T-21, some of them from safety will you that offering have funding but not well defined projects. 
<time begin="3502"/><clear/>I know we're missing something here. 
<time begin="3505"/><clear/>They had to go to the meeting. 
<time begin="3505"/><clear/>That's right. 
<time begin="3510"/><clear/>We will be offering up of what the requirements are for each of those programs 
<time begin="3515"/><clear/>and what the process is for applying for and obtaining funding, 
<time begin="3519"/><clear/>and one important point here is that once you got the blessing from the IFTWG industry panel, 
<time begin="3524"/><clear/>this is a viable project, we will support doing all of the administrative work 
<time begin="3530"/><clear/>and getting the project started and pushed to the committee for funding. 
<time begin="3536"/><clear/>If there is anything required in respect to presentations, 
<time begin="3540"/><clear/>we'll be coming back to the participants to put the project forward. 
<time begin="3545"/><clear/>We wanted to make everyone aware that this is a whole hoping up of -- 
<time begin="3553"/><clear/>I guess eight more doors that we didn't have before, and we do plan on taking it to the next level. 
<time begin="3559"/><clear/>I am looking forward to that one. 
<time begin="3562"/><clear/>Mike, did you have any comments? 
<time begin="3562"/><clear/>Thank you. 
<time begin="3564"/><clear/>I don't want to interfere here. 
<time begin="3568"/><clear/>Are there any questions before we are right here at our time limit now. 
<time begin="3579"/><clear/>We can keep going if there are any questions. 
<time begin="3583"/><clear/>Are you still out there? 
<time begin="3586"/><clear/>Kate, are you still on? 
<time begin="3594"/><clear/>Paul, this is Irv, I won't be able to make the meeting in Oak Brook but I would like to it the -- 
<time begin="3604"/><clear/>Did you have anything that you wanted to add? 
<time begin="3608"/><clear/>Not to the group. 
<time begin="3610"/><clear/>Very good. 
<time begin="3610"/><clear/>Thank you. 
<time begin="3612"/><clear/>Appreciate your participation today. 
<time begin="3620"/><clear/>Hope to see most of you at least out in Oak Brook. 
<time begin="3621"/><clear/>Take care. 
<time begin="3621"/><clear/>All right. 
<time begin="3625"/><clear/>Randy, are you going to be in your office? 
<time begin="3626"/><clear/>No. 
<time begin="3633"/><clear/>I will be on my cell. 
<time begin="3634"/><clear/>Kate. 
<time begin="3638"/><clear/>Let me e-mail you my cell phone number. 
<time begin="3638"/><clear/>Okay? 
<time begin="3638"/><clear/>Okay. 
<time begin="3644"/><clear/>All right. 
<time begin="3644"/><clear/>Bye. 
<time begin="3709"/><clear/>Bye. 
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