We are recording this so it will actually be, it will be on the web later for anybody else that wants to go back and listen to this and fill in any of the blanks, in the memory capacity. So with that, I think David is going to get, just start us off. Okay, I e-mailed two files yesterday, one of them was the update on the baseline, which we went over back in April, and that's just updating the other interviews we did. I apologize for the weird paper, but hard to format this stuff into normal 8.5 by 11, so it's a scenario we worked on two weeks ago, whenever that was, that I just spruced up a little bit and modified and then this year, on the web access, the power point, what I suggest on Tuesday is that we go through this Powerpoint which just tries to pull out the contents that we are talking about, this big excel sheet is what I called the working scenario, because we don't want to call it the 2-V process, we are not at that point. We are just trying to say here is the scenario that we put together, and I think we want to walk through this in detail so we can pass it out and as we go through it, go through the Powerpoint, they are read through this, they can read through it. This, I guess, shows that we tried to think through the whole process as well as given some detail, so I guess that's kind of the overview. How do I work this? Right there. What we are asking of these guys is number one they have been pretty helpful -- is that you? We are asking them to help in refining the baseline and then put them to understand and comment on what are the opportunity areas in this test. We want them to be able to talk to us about what additional information, what do they need in the process to make decisions. I guess this will need to tie in with the overall schedule, I guess between David and Mike, you guys will cover that either before in the intro, or afterwards? Dave, what's the, I don't have it in front of me. What's the order? The first thing Tuesday morning, give, bring everybody up to speed on what we've done, but we won't be covering the scheduled stuff until the story board, and we can flop that around if we want. Can we give them an one slide or two slide refresher on what this is we are doing? And go into the story board discussion. And then once we've completed that, where do we go now? And that's the schedule of the activities that are left, and the fact we are going to be needing to talk to them about maintaining commitment and I guess re-affirming their commitment. Okay. Apparently, order is not that important right now, but maybe we can talk about it again on Monday. Yeah, that's fine, and I've got some stuff I'll be sending to you, Mike, in a little bit, some prep a, preparatory stuff f. That sounds fine. We'll talk about it later on in the morning. Go to, start socializing going to have to make a commitment that will tie in with what you guys were talking about in the future. I through this together, threw this together just to, number 1, say thank you to all of them. Also just to make the argument that we've talked to a lot of people, tried to do our homework in understanding the supply chain. I think we've covered all the limited tier 1 partners and some of the tier two as well. So assumptions here, I go to assumptions and David, take a look at this. This interest of what you are going to be talking about beforehand, and by all means, let me know and edit this file. I think that is right on the, it is consistent with what we have with everything else. As least we are talking to each other, right? This page is just really to, Joe, how we define end to end, which I don't think is news to anyone, from the manufacturer to the DC, the function, the order as we talked about in Columbus a month or so ago, it's the data only really that we are interested in from the ordering function, transport distribution, we have something later on, talking about customs, but we are saying we're going to leave export customs out of this. I think is the way we are leaning. Delivery and at one point, we had security in there foyer chain of possession, so we've taken that off now. Those are the functions that we're saying is part of the task. Other assumptions, okay, here we have the Chinese customs we are leaving out, we would like to engage the manufacturers, I think that's important because they are generating some of the beginning part of the supply chains so there's good data there that we -- bio metrics are out, before them, last time we met with them -- and we would like to explore the customs filings Who is typing? Whoever is typing, can you put it on mute? So the customs conveyance, but in terms of the goods declaration, I think it's out of scope, but we're kind of leaving the door open to look at that if we can ever get with customs and talk to them, we can explore that further, but I think for the purposes of stake in the ground, we are saying no to the fifth declaration. Everyone okay with that? That's consistent it what we talked about. Next part, talk about the operational elements of the text, and basically what, to pull out of that spreadsheet what is, what the different components are, and I was kind of struggling with how do we talk about this? There's a lot of complexity and nuances to it so I broke into the six areas, not really wanting to convey the idea that there are six elements of the project, it's not really correct, some of these overlap with one another. This is more just a helpful way to talk to these people about what the concept is. So we'll go into each of these six in the filings that follow. First of all, in the virtual electronic freight manifest -- Dave, can I ask a question? I'm, I'm trying to shut up, I'm just not good at it. You're giving us the content, but not necessarily the delivery approach or method, right? And I ask that because I think somewhere in this, you have to say at a high level here's what we are doing, and here's how we are going to get from A to Z, and this is how it will benefit you, and I'm assuming that's just a no-daw, right? I mean, you're right. I'm kind of walking us through this, but in terms of the point that you raise, I've got at the back, I've got, to kind of summarize this and get us into discussion kind of what does this mean to you guys, that's not up here. I get nervous about that, that's like me giving you the math to equal -- telling you you can go faster than the speed of light. I think you need for flip flop it so their interest is high so they will listen. and that's a good point. I don't disagree with that. Let's walk through as we have. I actually, talking with Mike about doing it different in terms of the value and -- we talked about an executive summary, like what you are suggesting. That would bring that forward, forth, up front, and maybe that's the way to go, just like you sea, peak interest early on and they are paying attention, then go over it again at the end, I'm sure. Yeah. Dave, could you go back one slide? Like just a little slower? So we're saying that these are really the high level things that the employment task is going to take care of, I guess? I guess is this the take-home message bar? Somebody is going to ask them, what's this system going to do, these are the six items? Maybe it should say something like key features of the system. I'm not sure. I think what David is trying to do here is present this in categories, bite size chunks that you can present this stuff. It's more of, is this more of a sales pitch? the objective here is to get them to understand what the concept is. And I'm just trying to get it into bite size chunks. What is the benefit? Why should they listen to what the project is? Is that -- I don't think that's the -- Okay. I don't think that's the primary objective. I know, it's not the primary object be tiff, but I think that suggestion made about what the value is to them. Anyhow. Yeah. You know, we have a slide at the back on that. I think it absolutely makes sense to pull some of that forward here. Just one slide, a refresher, this is why we are doing it. Well, David, are you going to cover that on your stuff? Or should I be doing that in here? That is the question. There will be an introductory thing of what is the, I was going to remind them what the heck it is we're doing. I don't have anything right now on the benefits to them. That's not to say I can't do that, and maybe I pull stuff out of the back of yours, and put it in the introductory discussion. I don't have that right now I guess is what I'm saying. Maybe we do put a value summary up front, and we reiterate maybe in a little more detail at the end. Just like you say, why are we here? What's in this for you? from the UET, I've been working on some value propositions, key elements I guess, I'm not done yet, but that might be something you could put in here, too. Well, I have something similar for Dave that's hopefully heading his way at the end of today that sort of goes to the key notes of the supply chain and what each might be expecting. Dave, could you just add one word to the second one there where it says standard standardized data and messaging? Could you say messaging integration? Okay. Integration of data route FIH is the primary goal. Right. Okay. And as far as other better faces -- interfaces, do we want to say government agencies? Or focus in on that one? I don't t know. Limited only in customs? I think we are interested in how they can make those files with FDA, and fish and wildlife, too. Our position at this point is that that's off the table Right now, our position is -- that's still to be determined. Okay. We're sort of off the table with that one right now. All right. Because we are not sure how much disruption that is going to cause in actually conducting the deployment test if we don't have a data set that will facilitate that and the process associated with it. I think we need to think about that for sure, but it's just right now, we are not as clear on that in our own minds, and any kind of relationship, customs when we had that meeting the other day, they primarily thought they could, if we could do the, carve a declaration filing, they could probably do those two other filings for IDTS. Anything else on this slide? Do they no what... Depends. The broker probably doesn't. Okay. Okay. Move on. Next slide. These are just a series of slides walking through the virtual electronic manifest in terms of how it would build up. This is, this was brought up at the last meeting. You are going to see a series of slides walking through chronologically through the stages. So I'll page through these slides, leave them on for a few seconds, and go on. I don't know if we can get any indication for customs, in theory. We can know about that within the FIH. This is the message that the airline needs to send. I think it is useful if we can understand where the flight is departed, and different ways of knowing that. Hot carriers are, who the carriers are that we are working with, they have the capability that can tieing it into their system, although that's not all that current, I think it takes a couple of hours from what they were saying, but this is the area message that the carrier provides. Is there any IDS message for that It's an aims message, so EDI based, so -- It's aims, but air aims was based back in the 90s., 80s. These are pulling the items off the spreadsheet, column, and this quality check, coming out of -- is this a quality check that's already going on. They are just counting up what they had, and comparing it to what they should have had. Okay. These are EDI messages. Dave, between the, I'm sorry, going back, but between export customs and flight departure methods, is there nothing else in between? Export, clear export customs and next is flight departure message? Right. There is the ASN message which is part of the, it's the same data of that pre-alert. Okay. I mean this may not be a definitive list. There's lots of other data we've identified, you know, could be added. This is certainly the major items. I can't think of any other significant things going on with the folder from the time the freight is received to the time it's going to tack till and the airlines, you don't think there's anything else? In terms of the new data that's acquired to describe this shipment. Like what about the air bill number, master, HE WB, right, yeah, those are -- those are part of the shipment pre-alert generated. Pre-alert? Okay. I took some liberties in putting some things together here. That's fine, I was wondering when the data was, where the data was. In mean there's, there's an issue when things change. Cancellations and updates and stuff, and something later on saying we just have a place holder in there, we'll have to figure out, are we going to deal with those or leave those out? Okay. On standardized data messages, this first slide identify what are the significant messages that are taking place, structured messages. I believe these are the, you know, the significant ones, structured messages. EDI messages taking place. So within each of these, and correct me if you disagree, what we are saying here is we wants to adapt, XML messages as they exist, or UVL messages, as they exist, for the set, the subset in there that are just the airline messages, the cargo in messages taking place, we want to use, promote, assist, I added that to create essentially XML scheme miss of their messages, I don't know, I don't know that any of us know exactly where they are in this message set. So that's why I kind of used that. I think if they are not there, and that's where number four is where they don't exist, we will be writing our own. Do you agree that's kind of the approach here? Is Randy in the room there with you? Randy is in Cape Cod. Poor guy. Yellow corps offered to give us any and all web service format, scheme, whatever you wants to call it, six or seven, so it's another source if we need them. Okay. Number four, you are saying create our own or get what might be available from -- That's right. Should we call them out? Do they, not knowing what you all have got, do they use tran XML? No. They weren't before unless they can change over to it. Not that I'm aware of. and that will have to be my answer until I call them and ask. Okay. This is in line with what we talked about first of June there. Go back to my XML we talked about, but I think this covers each of the areas between the supplier, manufacturer's, trucking error, and back to the truck and ground. I think number four is Tom XML? That's right. Getting my trademark registered on it, I'm telling you. Do you think that brings us a little bit more credibility to put yellow freight somewhere in here? Yeah, in fact, I don't know if you know this, Mike, but two days ago, yellow roadway corporation just bought a $400 million freight porter if China. I didn't know that Well, you do now, and we might be able to tap some, some support in that fashion. I'll find out Okay. Yeah, I think it probably does put, give us some weight in that regard. Okay. Dave, did you this list of messages, that wasn't, were you thinking that was complete? That miscellaneous category, there's all kinds of stuff in there. Okay. Those relate to, I'll pull it up. Queries that are made, status, changes, acknowledgments, cancellations. Okay. There's a lot of miscellaneous crap that is structured EDI messages. If you take those away. Yes, I think this is everything that we've identified at this point. I'm just trying to pretending that I'm one of the trading partners sitting and watching this presentation, I'm wondering if I'm starting to get nervous right about now as to whether or not that legacy system I've got there is going to have to be completely rewritten. So I think it might be helpful to have already calmed that way up front. I'm wondering if we shouldn't go into that 3E legged stool you are talking about early on, one of the things we didn't want to disturb was legacy systems, competitiveness, and you're going to lose my right now. Oh, well. Think about it. One of the things we were trying to do is saying this is the philosophy, in addition to what we think may come out as being strong benefits, these are some of the philosophies that we wanted to go into this test, knowing that we wouldn't, we didn't wants to be disturbing their legacy systems, and we get into this, Dave has some U CR discussion in here, too, so I think that's going to be a key component to make that happen. Mike, I'm not promising you great clarity in these new schematics that we're producing, a combination of Ron and I and Eric, but if we can get them finalized today or tomorrow morning, I think those schematics are like a picture is worth 10,000 words. That doesn't have -- Doesn't say anything about -- no FHWA server, it just has Kate Hartman's phone number They can't get through, because my kids are on the Internet, they have dial up, and they don't get off. So put my number on Like that's safe. You don't know the calls I've been missing. I'll get that to everybody tomorrow, and I would think if I were in the supply chain and I could see how I fit in a physical architecture, and see how this is sort of accommodate legacy systems than replace, I think I would feel better. Do you agree with those I don't know that it's clear in the picture though. Okay, then take back everything I just said. I mean I think it's just, I'd have to go back and look, I don't have them in front of me, Dan. I had some questions on it. We'll talk about that offline though. Okay. Then maybe never mind. I think that's the goal you are headed for. Absolutely. I think you're right what you are saying, a picture is worth a thousand words and trying to show them how they are going to fit in so we don't get the reaction like at Blackwell two months ago, you know? The one with the server and that Dave, because again, I'm kind of a visual guy, as everybody knows here, and I don't have a white board, but if they see up front a schematic or ark check sure and you run through things like data and messaging and serves, and Connecticut, in connectivity, right now, these lists are just floating out there. And femoral to me. Do you want to think about based on what you are producing, if or how that can be worked in here? Yeah. I'll do another round of those things and if, I'll send them out and if you think it's useful, go ahead, use them Fair enough. I think we need something to affect like you are saying, Dan, to give the big picture they are thinking of and even though we are not getting down deep into the weeds, we are getting down a few layers before. Depends on who is going to be there, is it going to be the business person or the IP person? IC people I think this and the next slide give an opportunity to see, you know, these are standard data items that are already being used in the system that they can all probably to some extent relate to, and here is how we have to fill in the -- I think that next slide is primarily trying to show there's still some gaps in the system to get to a, you know, an international standard capability is that what you are trying to show there? Yeah. I think the error messages... The other messages, they will pick up. I think the message that you described is the right one.